tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21835806.post114206863990557564..comments2023-12-30T03:43:39.396-08:00Comments on Low Fierce: Virtua Fighter - genius or insanity?Derek Danielshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00207977813227663547noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21835806.post-1144281315893628792006-04-05T16:55:00.000-07:002006-04-05T16:55:00.000-07:00Online play is a western thing? Are people unfamil...Online play is a western thing? Are people unfamiliar with Starcraft? That game is insane in the east especially Korea. Still not convinced? Have you heard of a little thing called MMORPG's? World of Warcraft definitely raised the bar and is western, but countless MMO's are produced in korea and japan because they do so well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21835806.post-1142358934472423092006-03-14T09:55:00.000-08:002006-03-14T09:55:00.000-08:00To date, vanilla Virtua Fighter 4 has sold 624,918...To date, vanilla Virtua Fighter 4 has sold 624,918 copies. Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution - a game that Sega had no choice but to sell as a Greatest Hits game - sold 280,233. Remember, this is a game considered best of the best by several review sites and magazines. Tekken 4, widely considered to be the worst game in the series, sold 1,242,821 copies.<BR/><BR/>Incidentally, while some games go Greatest Hits, some never do. How many years did GTA3 and 4 stay at full price, despite selling 6 million copies plus each (Vice City, I believe, sold a million copies in its first month of sale alone)? Typically, a game goes Greatest Hits when sales starts to rapidly decline (and yes, the criteria that Javi mentioned is also correct, it's just not a rule). God of War, with sales close to 800,000 units, just went to Greatest Hits this month because it was doing just fine at full price for nearly a year.omar kendallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06675474867438822833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21835806.post-1142298244641314592006-03-13T17:04:00.000-08:002006-03-13T17:04:00.000-08:00I remember reading that the most recent VF4 being ...I remember reading that the most recent VF4 being released as a Greatest Hits was something Sony forced upon Sega, not because it actually sold a lot. In fact, I think it was on Omar's blog. And in fact, yes it <A HREF="http://new-challenger.blogspot.com/2006/02/tekken-psp-sign-of-times.html" REL="nofollow">was</A>.jchensorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01056258404628175722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21835806.post-1142267166831485822006-03-13T08:26:00.000-08:002006-03-13T08:26:00.000-08:00In Japan, a lot of competition can be had in the a...In Japan, a lot of competition can be had in the arcades, which practically eliminates the need for online play over there. Everywhere else, that's not so true. <BR/><BR/>I think the question should be, who is Sega catering to with Virtua Fighter? Japan, or elsewhere, or a both?<BR/><BR/>I think the criteria for a game to hit the PS2 Greatest Hits collection (in north america)is to have a game out for at least nine months, and to sell at least 400k. And last I saw, VF4 was a Greatest Hit. Not too shabby, compared to the Xbox live Capcom games who can't seem to sell all that much.<BR/><BR/>With those kind of figures, you think that Sega would push something out like that - it would create a vested interest in the game and keep the masses clamoring for more...Javihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14092963968607271843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21835806.post-1142201108421915502006-03-12T14:05:00.000-08:002006-03-12T14:05:00.000-08:00Japan themselves have had more fighting games onli...Japan themselves have had more fighting games online than US I would say. CvS1/2 were online as well as Zero 3 Upper. <BR/><BR/>Making the game online wouldn't be just for America, I imagine if they made the game for online they would be able to sell it in both markets. I honestly don't know how online play is in Europe right now though. <BR/><BR/>BTW, can't believe no one called me out for the dope Ryo Shenmue pic!Derek Danielshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00207977813227663547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21835806.post-1142173443525570252006-03-12T06:24:00.000-08:002006-03-12T06:24:00.000-08:00Personally I think that because of the infrastruct...Personally I think that because of the infrastructure that they had to lay down for VF4 (all those fibre optic cables in every arcade in the country will add up eventually) that Sega is looking to finally recoup all of its losses, and start making a tidy profit on it. Of course, I really want VF5 to be online, but I realize that making tight netcode for a game that's as precise as VF would be almost next to impossible.<BR/><BR/>Andrew (Reno)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21835806.post-1142143363125420292006-03-11T22:02:00.000-08:002006-03-11T22:02:00.000-08:00I think it's flawed logic to assume that an online...I think it's flawed logic to assume that an online mode would somehow magically increase Virtua Fighter sales. Even when dubbed "The Greatest Fighting Game Ever Made" by several videogame publications online and off, VF has continued to struggle as a second-class citzen when compared to the Western juggernauts Soul Calibur and Tekken from a sales standpoint. Hell even the Dragon Ball fighting series destroys it here. Sega will probably treat the West as the West has treated VF in the past - as a low priority, and an online mode really is a Western feature.<BR/><BR/>And please, let's not dismiss the cost involved in creating a functional online mode. I've seen the troubles involved in developing network code firsthand, and it's not as trivial as everyone makes it out to be. I'm convinced that for Sega it's not a certainty that the investment would be rewarded with the increased sales that would be required to justify the implementation.<BR/><BR/>I'm both a huge Sega and Virtua Fighter fan. I would shit rainbows if VF was the premier fighting game all over the world, but I honestly think it's gonna take more than online to make that happen. Derek and I have discussed this in the past; VF just doesn't have what the West wants.omar kendallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06675474867438822833noreply@blogger.com